I've seen the remake of two of those movies, have heard of two more, and haven't even heard of the other two.
Best movie of all time is a huge and subjective call. I was racking my brain for my pick.
Don't know that I could wittle it down to just one. One very good movie that springs to mind, tho, is American Beauty - no scooters, but a hillarious performance from Kevin Spacey.
without quad the scene would not be what it is today, come over to england and come to a rally and see, just been to hull and district rally at weekend, have many photos to down load and many quad lovers, gay my ass, whats wrong with gay anyway
The VISIBLE scene to those that go on rallies and read the moped magazine may be influenced by quadrophenia. But the rest of us were never mods, or anything remotely like it. Watch it without rose tinted glasses on. Its poorly made, poorly cut, terribly acted with the same song played over and over and over.
I could name fifty films that are better than quadrophenia. More, if I wasn't going out in the next ten minutes.
It is embarassing to be associated with such nonsense, just because I own a scooter.
its nearly 30 years old that film and still being talked about , love it or hate it , its upt the profile of scootering over the years . its so easy it slag of a film that was suposed to be set in the 60's , made on the cheap in the 70's , its a cult film .
on music , take the cotten wool out of your ears , most tracks are by "the who" which do not repeat , one of the best r & b band the world has ever seen and one of the best r & b albums . the only song they got wrong was ... it should have been " i ride a sx scooter with my hair cut short".... not a gs scooter with my hair cut neat . bloody mods.....
Gazzer. All fair comments.. but being a cult (cheap) film doesn't make it good.
Two Lane Blacktop was/is a cult film. And it's far better acted than Quadrophenia.
And in the poll, the other films aren't cult, and are all much better!
I'm not convinced its upped the profile in a good way. All it's done is to make the public at large think that everyone who rides a Lambretta is a mod. Which is an awful slur on those of us that aren't.
you surly can not put the mod film up against the others in the same sentence. course the other films are far better acted than mod film , there got mr cane in them for a start . the film was made with unknowns , even sting was a wally in it and an unknown. in the late 70's there was a real low in scootering in the uk and the film lifted the profile of scootering which can not be a bad thing . on the down side i for one was a skinhead on a scooter and like a lot of mates hated the fact that they called me a mod because of being on a scooter, to this day i still get called one even though i have no ucking hair now{ i'm over it} anyway , as a 1979 scooter boy i did not see the film till 1982 and thought it carried well , fights with greasers{ rockers} cloths ect but i could never get hold of any ruddy drugs so settled for the beer. to a lot of brits it is dear to there hearts because of the hardship they had just owning a scooter , i for one had so much shit from greasers in the early 80's just coz i road a ucking scooter. the time zone may be diffrent but the bover was the same.
each to there own i spose but it pisses me off calling a film gay just coz it seems to be the in word or they just don't get the film . if you don't get it fine , but does every sucker have to push the point they do not like it .
don't think anyone got get carter, most bloody depressing film i own.
{ bargain bucket in warehouse}
on the italian job ,the mini killed the scoot scene as cheap form of transport in the late 60's and even inocentti had a stab at making them for a while.
if i got a dollar for everytime i hear "what? that much for a scooter? for that money i can get a jap import!" ... i would be riding a gold plated donkey!
maybe it helps that the fuel heads into the 3$ per liter direction ;-p
cant remember the tittle of the film but loved the part were a guy got chucked out of a 3 story building and landed on top of a car ,sean bean said he must of #issed someone off then carried on talking as if nothing had happen. hard stuff .
cant see john as jimmy , clean cut and shagging less in the ally let alone on a lambretta. now that would have made it a gay film .....
get in gazzer! quad kicks ass, i have hair and ride rally200 my crew are mainly lammy skins and we all like the little cult film, british films arent hollywood, thats in that big theme park below canada... brit films are bit more gritty low cost and more humourous...where else do you get pigs eating people and a dog eating a squeaky toy , and threats of 'ze germans'? its a laugh, watched goodbye pork pie...genius
forgot to tell you, eastenders was on when I walked through lounge yesterday(no i wasnt watching it) and low and behold lead from quad is now an eastend proper second hand car dealin geezer! laughed my ass off..... how the mighty have fallen!
what is the point.. it is not funny ...although my ex wife could quote monty python and laugh everytime....I thought it silly too silly to be funny ...Pulp Fiction was a memeroble film ...The Love Story saw it when I was 13 .........Mary poppins was great when I was 6 ....It is all relevant of where you are ..if you like Quadrophinia you likely have an alcohol problem or you smoke way too much dope ...or your head has been bashed too many times in too many football brawls.....
lovin this joust between you two about quad, its a film that many here and abroad reminise(not a good speller) over a time when they were young free and had loads of fun remember what was going on in the world then and how you felt, you may have to be a certain age or you may not... its not a bad film, how could it be the scoots are lovely..... good bye pork pie right up there with other kiwi brilliance, came a hot friday and bad taste... low budget fun and films to remember just like quad... my favourite film if fight club and not a scooter in sight, would be nice if photos accompanied names on this sight so you could see who you were laughing with, discussing with, getting reved up with(caza n gazza)..
I guess .. I was so disapointed in Quad cause I had heard so much hype on it ....I had to drive 25km cause our town video shop didn't have it and once the others where out on loan so drove in twice got a really worn copy of it with lines all over the set then the film was a let down .... I loved trainspotting and I think if I would have seen this film in the 70's at a theatre I may have different feelings towards it ....
I was in melbourne an got taken to a bar called "Pink" .... there i witnessed a 2 1/2 hour stage show, 7 drag queens performing "sound of music"
It was like brain wash ... !!!! don't know if i can ever see any film or show again without them drag queens popping up in my mind .. they ruined it for me for ever
Once I watched the DVD of Get Carter with directors commentary on, it made a whole lot more sense. (I guess it shoulda made sense before that tho...). From the very beginning of the film, the mob is onto him, the assassin that shoots him at the end is sitting across from him on the train.
But that line, quoted in part earlier, always gets me - 'You're a big man but you're out of shape - me, I do this for a job. Now behave yerself'.
And Quad gets better every time I reckon, ever since I first saw it at the Classic in Queen St, double feature with Rude Boy. THe GS (OK, it's not a GS, but it's acting, innit?) lands on the rocks and from the back of the theatre some wag breaks the silence: 'it'll still start first kick'. V. funny.
STEEEEEPPPHH!!!!!! was right up there with Brando's 'STELLLLAAAHHHH!!!
once you know the whole story behind Quadrophenia , it gets even more interesting.
The Who produced the first album "Quadrophenia" as a rock opera with a picture booklet inside .. Far more agressive vibes and ideas and much more controversial approach.
The originl script for the film was based on this idea of a rock opera with 7 lead caracters rather than one
Johnny Rotten was cast for to play Jimmy ..and that was when everything went pearshaped .
Due to Rottens rotten image and behaviour, the BBC refused funding for the original script and casting .. and the whole shabong had to be streamlined and cleaned up.... and funding was still just a fragment of the original budged ..hence the poor quality
The product of this censorship exercise is a ok film with a ok message and no sharp edges or too controversial approach.
a CULT classic for the scooter scene of course and very interesting to look at if you have spent a few years in Uni studying soziology and/or psychology...
.. but it's not the best film ever (well, for me)
I have to agree with Pork Pie in the top ranks .. i have seen it a few times now and still laugh my a** off every single time... its simple, cheeky, deep and incredible funny
The Rusty Nuts MC had a couple of "pork Pie" runs organised in the past .. that could be an idea for a future Scooter Ride... we are taking our bikes to Invercargill (sometimes spelled with one "l" to save ink) !!!
Talking of Invercargill.... "world fastest Indian" has made it to my ever top 10 list too (which features films like Brasil, Blade Runner, a Clockwork Orange)
Yes a 200 Lambretta was 200 pounds and a minivan was 350 a saloon 500.
Then the triumph Herald was cheap too.
Those cars stopped scoots as the sole transport of the mass youth crowd. Come to think of it thats what Morcs thread was on partly, Japanese imports have done the same.
I dont think you have any idea what you are talking about, I am sorry to say that, but there is so much history and memories associated with that film. Some understand and some dont. Each to there own, but as far as slagging people off and saying they have an Alcohol problem or smoking problem I do not think you can comment. " Caz" is also a term used in the 60's for a "plastic", a fake a wannabie. Just thought you should know that.
Now that the debate has nearly finished - didn't see "quad", but I did see Audry Hepburn zapping around Rome on the back of a vespa back in the fifties in "Roman Holiday" and compared that to "Sabrina visits Rome", a relatively new film with races and chases through the streets of Rome on vespas. Well worth a watch.
If it hadn't been for Quadrophenia, we may never have had Blur's "Parklife"...now is that good or bad..?
Personally I like the film just for spotting all the actors who later turned up in Eastenders, The Bill, Boon.....hey it was Ray Winstone's big break so that's one good thing.
Don't throw...bloody spears...at me - M Caine, Zulu
I've seen the remake of two of those movies, have heard of two more, and haven't even heard of the other two.
Best movie of all time is a huge and subjective call. I was racking my brain for my pick.
Don't know that I could wittle it down to just one. One very good movie that springs to mind, tho, is American Beauty - no scooters, but a hillarious performance from Kevin Spacey.
Thank fuck nobody has said Quadrophenia. Or I'd have to shout GAY at the top of my voice.
Brain ache for this fan of M.Micklewhite.....so many quotes, so little time....
New sig, ideal for committee membership
Don't throw...bloody spears...at me. - M Caine, Zulu
nice one mattblack gay it is!
http://rally.lambretta.co.nz/
without quad the scene would not be what it is today, come over to england and come to a rally and see, just been to hull and district rally at weekend, have many photos to down load and many quad lovers, gay my ass, whats wrong with gay anyway
New Zealand's scooter scene is more "Good-Bye Pork Pie" meets "Back to the Future" than Quadrophenia.
The VISIBLE scene to those that go on rallies and read the moped magazine may be influenced by quadrophenia. But the rest of us were never mods, or anything remotely like it. Watch it without rose tinted glasses on. Its poorly made, poorly cut, terribly acted with the same song played over and over and over.
I could name fifty films that are better than quadrophenia. More, if I wasn't going out in the next ten minutes.
It is embarassing to be associated with such nonsense, just because I own a scooter.
it was supposed to be cheap n nasty,
heres an image zulus attackin.....on scooters
its nearly 30 years old that film and still being talked about , love it or hate it , its upt the profile of scootering over the years . its so easy it slag of a film that was suposed to be set in the 60's , made on the cheap in the 70's , its a cult film .
on music , take the cotten wool out of your ears , most tracks are by "the who" which do not repeat , one of the best r & b band the world has ever seen and one of the best r & b albums . the only song they got wrong was ... it should have been " i ride a sx scooter with my hair cut short".... not a gs scooter with my hair cut neat . bloody mods.....
watch the cloth moth ....... gazzer
gazzer
gazzer .. for you it would be " i rode my SX scooter till my hair fell out ..."
;-p
"if it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"
i new i should have worn a helmut .
i hear theres a few skins about ...... er i mean mods.....
gazzer
Gazzer. All fair comments.. but being a cult (cheap) film doesn't make it good.
Two Lane Blacktop was/is a cult film. And it's far better acted than Quadrophenia.
And in the poll, the other films aren't cult, and are all much better!
I'm not convinced its upped the profile in a good way. All it's done is to make the public at large think that everyone who rides a Lambretta is a mod. Which is an awful slur on those of us that aren't.
you surly can not put the mod film up against the others in the same sentence. course the other films are far better acted than mod film , there got mr cane in them for a start . the film was made with unknowns , even sting was a wally in it and an unknown. in the late 70's there was a real low in scootering in the uk and the film lifted the profile of scootering which can not be a bad thing . on the down side i for one was a skinhead on a scooter and like a lot of mates hated the fact that they called me a mod because of being on a scooter, to this day i still get called one even though i have no ucking hair now{ i'm over it} anyway , as a 1979 scooter boy i did not see the film till 1982 and thought it carried well , fights with greasers{ rockers} cloths ect but i could never get hold of any ruddy drugs so settled for the beer. to a lot of brits it is dear to there hearts because of the hardship they had just owning a scooter , i for one had so much shit from greasers in the early 80's just coz i road a ucking scooter. the time zone may be diffrent but the bover was the same.
each to there own i spose but it pisses me off calling a film gay just coz it seems to be the in word or they just don't get the film . if you don't get it fine , but does every sucker have to push the point they do not like it .
just a point of view of course .
" i don't want all that #ucking change.... gazzer
Both a lammy and a vespa get trashed. It's exercise for the trainspotters amongst us picking out the flaws. Get it in ya eyeballs.
Quad wasnt too bad given the time lapse, it got the scene quite well.
Unlike most riders of today, in those days a scooter was half a years wages or more, you had only one and you loved it!!! It wasnt a toy/hobby.
And in those days gay just meant happy(Jack)
Where have all the Good Times gone.
Yeah Right
Old Mod
The original" Vanishing Point" was good.
OOOPs thats US.
Italian job Noel Coward aka Krays
Man who would be King. The Taliban .
Alfie. Terence Stamp turned it down after a bad live show closed in 10days in NY
Rorkes Drift the star was the Martini Henry
I never got Carter, did I miss something?
Pork Pie and Sleeping Dogs good stuff
Does Pukemanu count?
Old Mod
don't think anyone got get carter, most bloody depressing film i own.
{ bargain bucket in warehouse}
on the italian job ,the mini killed the scoot scene as cheap form of transport in the late 60's and even inocentti had a stab at making them for a while.
i am now truely a geek :(
" i don't want to be like everyone else"
gazzer
yes, old mod, just like now
if i got a dollar for everytime i hear "what? that much for a scooter? for that money i can get a jap import!" ... i would be riding a gold plated donkey!
maybe it helps that the fuel heads into the 3$ per liter direction ;-p
"if it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"
The genre of the Brit gangster films are often in a quieter way more menacing than the Yank ones.
There were bad ones before Vinnie etc
Old Mod.
Didnt know that about Johnny rotten, goetz.
The final theme for the credits of BladeRunner was great synth music.
Gary what was the Sean Bean gangster film where they blow up the Jag?
Do you remember the one where the guy took his flash suit off so as not to get blood on it while dismembering the rival gang boss?
Old Mod.
cant remember the tittle of the film but loved the part were a guy got chucked out of a 3 story building and landed on top of a car ,sean bean said he must of #issed someone off then carried on talking as if nothing had happen. hard stuff .
cant see john as jimmy , clean cut and shagging less in the ally let alone on a lambretta. now that would have made it a gay film .....
"you can shove your job right up your ##se"
gazzer
get in gazzer! quad kicks ass, i have hair and ride rally200 my crew are mainly lammy skins and we all like the little cult film, british films arent hollywood, thats in that big theme park below canada... brit films are bit more gritty low cost and more humourous...where else do you get pigs eating people and a dog eating a squeaky toy , and threats of 'ze germans'? its a laugh, watched goodbye pork pie...genius
oupa gfsc london
forgot to tell you, eastenders was on when I walked through lounge yesterday(no i wasnt watching it) and low and behold lead from quad is now an eastend proper second hand car dealin geezer! laughed my ass off..... how the mighty have fallen!
oupa gfsc london
more like 25000 and a bag of chips and a discounted bus pass
oupa
gfsc
what is the point.. it is not funny ...although my ex wife could quote monty python and laugh everytime....I thought it silly too silly to be funny ...Pulp Fiction was a memeroble film ...The Love Story saw it when I was 13 .........Mary poppins was great when I was 6 ....It is all relevant of where you are ..if you like Quadrophinia you likely have an alcohol problem or you smoke way too much dope ...or your head has been bashed too many times in too many football brawls.....
As a 13 year old i would never have watched love story so it sought of makes sence that you don't get quadrophinia.
" don't sing all that old rubbish"
gazzer
like I said I get Quadrophinia and I would have enjoyed a lot more at the age of 14
Come to think of it - perhaps i should have put Goodbye Pork Pie in there.....but then I am a Mini fan and The Italian Job was my vote
Good to see a Poll causing so much 'discussion'.
lovin this joust between you two about quad, its a film that many here and abroad reminise(not a good speller) over a time when they were young free and had loads of fun remember what was going on in the world then and how you felt, you may have to be a certain age or you may not... its not a bad film, how could it be the scoots are lovely..... good bye pork pie right up there with other kiwi brilliance, came a hot friday and bad taste... low budget fun and films to remember just like quad... my favourite film if fight club and not a scooter in sight, would be nice if photos accompanied names on this sight so you could see who you were laughing with, discussing with, getting reved up with(caza n gazza)..
bye for now from london
oupa gfsc
all good fun but just a bit worried caza watched love story as a 13 year old....on faces , you would'nt want to see our ugly mugs thats for sure.
gazzer
I guess .. I was so disapointed in Quad cause I had heard so much hype on it ....I had to drive 25km cause our town video shop didn't have it and once the others where out on loan so drove in twice got a really worn copy of it with lines all over the set then the film was a let down .... I loved trainspotting and I think if I would have seen this film in the 70's at a theatre I may have different feelings towards it ....
whop needs a good film anyway??
i am off films since 2 weeks ago
the reason:
I was in melbourne an got taken to a bar called "Pink" .... there i witnessed a 2 1/2 hour stage show, 7 drag queens performing "sound of music"
It was like brain wash ... !!!! don't know if i can ever see any film or show again without them drag queens popping up in my mind .. they ruined it for me for ever
"if it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"
Once I watched the DVD of Get Carter with directors commentary on, it made a whole lot more sense. (I guess it shoulda made sense before that tho...). From the very beginning of the film, the mob is onto him, the assassin that shoots him at the end is sitting across from him on the train.
But that line, quoted in part earlier, always gets me - 'You're a big man but you're out of shape - me, I do this for a job. Now behave yerself'.
And Quad gets better every time I reckon, ever since I first saw it at the Classic in Queen St, double feature with Rude Boy. THe GS (OK, it's not a GS, but it's acting, innit?) lands on the rocks and from the back of the theatre some wag breaks the silence: 'it'll still start first kick'. V. funny.
STEEEEEPPPHH!!!!!! was right up there with Brando's 'STELLLLAAAHHHH!!!
'Mr. F*cking Postman.'
Everybody knows Dustin's Alfa wanted to be a Lambretta.
Whoops - too late
Good bye pork is a wicked movie.
Nice work Topper.
Interestingly, u dont sign off with your name. u from Auckland?
You also forgot to mention that many of the scooters in the film were made AFTER the year the film is set in...
once you know the whole story behind Quadrophenia , it gets even more interesting.
The Who produced the first album "Quadrophenia" as a rock opera with a picture booklet inside .. Far more agressive vibes and ideas and much more controversial approach.
The originl script for the film was based on this idea of a rock opera with 7 lead caracters rather than one
Johnny Rotten was cast for to play Jimmy ..and that was when everything went pearshaped .
Due to Rottens rotten image and behaviour, the BBC refused funding for the original script and casting .. and the whole shabong had to be streamlined and cleaned up.... and funding was still just a fragment of the original budged ..hence the poor quality
The product of this censorship exercise is a ok film with a ok message and no sharp edges or too controversial approach.
a CULT classic for the scooter scene of course and very interesting to look at if you have spent a few years in Uni studying soziology and/or psychology...
.. but it's not the best film ever (well, for me)
I have to agree with Pork Pie in the top ranks .. i have seen it a few times now and still laugh my a** off every single time... its simple, cheeky, deep and incredible funny
The Rusty Nuts MC had a couple of "pork Pie" runs organised in the past .. that could be an idea for a future Scooter Ride... we are taking our bikes to Invercargill (sometimes spelled with one "l" to save ink) !!!
Talking of Invercargill.... "world fastest Indian" has made it to my ever top 10 list too (which features films like Brasil, Blade Runner, a Clockwork Orange)
"if it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"
Yes a 200 Lambretta was 200 pounds and a minivan was 350 a saloon 500.
Then the triumph Herald was cheap too.
Those cars stopped scoots as the sole transport of the mass youth crowd. Come to think of it thats what Morcs thread was on partly, Japanese imports have done the same.
Old Mod
But you're out of shape....
Best british gangster film ever (narrowly ahead of Long Good Friday). Guy Richie can **** off.
Talking of Minis, didn't British Leyland buy Innocenti and kill it off?
Don't throw...bloody spears...at me - M Caine, Zulu
yep how the mighty have fallen ... into top british soap on 200 thousand quid a year .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d40HW6YBtxY&search=eastenders%20phil%20daniels
" will you run that film again please"
gazzer
I dont think you have any idea what you are talking about, I am sorry to say that, but there is so much history and memories associated with that film. Some understand and some dont. Each to there own, but as far as slagging people off and saying they have an Alcohol problem or smoking problem I do not think you can comment. " Caz" is also a term used in the 60's for a "plastic", a fake a wannabie. Just thought you should know that.
Now that the debate has nearly finished - didn't see "quad", but I did see Audry Hepburn zapping around Rome on the back of a vespa back in the fifties in "Roman Holiday" and compared that to "Sabrina visits Rome", a relatively new film with races and chases through the streets of Rome on vespas. Well worth a watch.
as I am no scooterist, therefore, I am a Pig......
If it hadn't been for Quadrophenia, we may never have had Blur's "Parklife"...now is that good or bad..?
Personally I like the film just for spotting all the actors who later turned up in Eastenders, The Bill, Boon.....hey it was Ray Winstone's big break so that's one good thing.
Don't throw...bloody spears...at me - M Caine, Zulu
thats the best film bob hoskins made and the lovely co star helen mirren made it the best uk gangster film ever.
" what should have been the greastest day in harolds life suddenly becomes the longest "
as quoted on the dvd cover.
geeky gazzer
ps , i have a gold plated donkey for sale.
best bit in the film was , all together now.......
i'm singing in the rain , just singing in the rain.
gazzer
" thats #ollicks, three of a kind don't beat that"
the film was mate with 7 caracters but was over 3 hours long so half ended up on the cutting room floor.
oh! just while i am in geek mode , jimmy was a dustman on the album .
gazzer
" oh! ya , whats normal then"
I thought you should know that in the 50's the term speedy meant dickhead ...........Just thought you should know that...
REX!!!! You've figured out the interweb thingy!!
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