Parking on the footpath
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I've always taken parking on the footpath as a given, and tolerated by Council, but never officially endorsed. This afternoon a parking warden asked me what I was doing as I dismounted my steed? One of the rear times I did not park on the footpath, Murphys law it will get knocked over. I was parked at the end of a 10min park zone where it bounded a Taxi rank - the warden then instructed me to park on the footpath - cool, not all wardens suck.
Another protest
There's been some chat over on KB about this issue too - seems there has been a recent change of heart over at the council as regards bikes parking on the footpath and a few have picked up tickets. There's talk of a mass occupation of car spaces to highlight the stupidity of this idea...
Thankfully, mopeds can legally park on the footpath (that's you tiddlers) and most Wardens don't know the difference between scooters that qualify or not...<touches wood>
Mine's a Speight's, thanks.
Im a mass re-offender
Im a mass re-offender of footpath parking.
I even have a cushy carpark in the pay and display undercover car park across the road for free in between 2 columns. I was once "mistakenly towed" which I found very funny and even got an apology from Tournament.
Scooters really are the best transportation.
Still trying to figure out where motorbikes/scoots are meant to park at Sylvia Park though....
where are the rules on this?
Is it a council bylaw or something that allows mopeds to park on footpaths, but not motorbikes?
Incidentally you are supposed to drive a car to Sylvia Park. Scoots, cycles and walking are for less advanced third world countries.
I need to do a bit more investigating!
Only found a dodgy park outside Kathmandu on some yellow lines ;o)
Oh yea knowledgable people, I salute you.
experiment
I'm off to a meeting at Councils Greys Ave Beureacracy HQ - I'll park my scooter on the footpath outside and see what happens.
well iv been rideing
bikes for around 20odd years and have parked them all over fotpaths around auck and have nev had a ticket
since owning my scoot...approx 4years i thought it as our right to park on footpaths?????? well i have and no probs.... think as long as it looks like a scoot and not a motorbike we are sweetas
As I said previously - I
As I said previously - I was instructed by the warden to park on the footpath - he must have considered my scoot a 50
interesting
I parked on the footpath between the council HQ front door and a parking warden organizing a car to get towed - don't seem to have gotten a ticket
Rotorua
i got ticketed in Vegas for foot path parking......i wrote in a letter of dis aproval & they droped the matter. Stink to have the hassle though
Feral John.....
From TV1 Morning programme
They had a thing on "Good morning" about scooters parking on the footpath - there is a new guy in the council in charge of infringements that has decided it isnt allowed anymore.
Apparently new scooter only parking bays are going to be located in Ponsonby Rd, K Rd & Parnell I think but the parking tickets will be enforced before these new parking bays are designated.
Go figure.
yes i heard this aswell
at motomail suck, wheres the esentive for useing a scooter...cant lane split, no parking on footpaths
these guys dont wanna change the traffic do they
i feel a protest comming on
That blows great big donkey d _ _ k!
That blows great big donkey d _ _ k!
Oh well i guess I'm going to be an outlaw and break the law some more...
I'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride
I'm wanted dead or alive
I'm a cowboy, I got the night on my side
I'm wanted dead or alive
Wanted dead or alive
<breaks out into glam-metal air guitar solo>
Found this at TVNZ online
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/video_popup_windows_skin/1444436
for those who missed Breakfast yesterday morning...
a copy from other message board regards this issue
just copying a couple of posts from other site
this is becoming a big issue for all of us.
Aperantly a new cowby is in the saddle at the council.
At this stage we are looking into the political approach, meaning
petition and lobbying directly to the person/s in charge.
Thats the way we got the bus lanes opened.
There is talk about getting more scooter/bike parks etc... but until
those are created we need a way of dealiong with our parking dilemma.
Yes, the motyorbike/scooter parking "raid" is a great way of proving
our point ... at this stage i would see into targeting just one
carpark, preferably one where all the council paperstallions park their
cars.
We are not enough bikes to make an impact on to the whole city - but if
we get some media behind us, even making an example at one car park
could have a huge impact.
Important is to do the political groundwork first, so the people in
charge cn see what we are actually going on about.
Any suggestions are welcome!!
--- In VCNZ@yahoogroups.com, "tim_pdu" <TimW@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all - great ride the other week and the fish and chips are
> irresistable.
>
> My mate Jonny - Ducati rider and anaesthetic tech tells me the new
> this morning is there's a blitz on scooters parking on the pavement!!!
>
> Goetz mentioed the response to any such crazyness would be to
organise
> mass scooter parking in car pak spaces - 1 scooter one space.
>
> Is this something the wider scooter community needs to knock on the
> head quick smart?? Do magnetos now about this?
>
> Brig and I are keen to protest this insanity.
>
> Tim - blue ET2
"if it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"
i rekon
we should get at least 100 scoots and involve as many big bikes and get up real early in the morn and do what goetz said. 1 scoot or bike to a car park and take the auck carparks???????????
It's quite a funny idea
You probably would need to pick a particular area, though, for it to have an impact. Somewhere like Ponsonby Rd was one of the areas where they've acknowledged they need to put in parks might be a good bet.
And it'd pay to notify the media, so they can take pictures and film the cars driving round looking for a spot...
sounds like a plan
we can spread the word to all clubs scooters, and bikes, i rekon a monday morning lets stuff up auckland traffic
We can also spread the word
We can also spread the word to simply go "by the book" one by one - means everytime we go somewhere and see a free car park - just use it instead of leaving it to the cars... i'll be happily pay my couple of dollars to make a point
;-p
"if it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"
Use all parking spots
My understanding is that any vehicle with a current rego is legally entitled to use any designated parking space like P10s, P120s or whatever, free or pay/display. I think a scooter and bike take-over of all the vehicle parking - not "car" parking - is a great idea.
a good letter to send
If you get a ticket use this letter and ask for a copy of the buy laws inwhich the tickcket has been issused under
The hate paper work !!!!!
CUT and Paste it on to a word doc have fun
Notice number
Rego
6/01/05
You’re Name
Address
Address
Auckland
Attention
In response to your letter Dated
This is a request under the Official Information Act 1982 and regulations thereunder.
This is my firm promise to pay fess and cost for locating and duplicating the documents requested below. If costs are expected to exceed $0.00 please send me estimate of costs.
If the portions of this request are exempt from release, please furnish me with those portions reasonably segregable .Please expedite this request within the time prescribed by statute.
1. Please give me a copy of the buy laws inwhich the ticket I have been issued is under and any relevant documentation that pertains to this ticket.
I do not require an opinion letter .Either provide the documents responsive to my request, or state there are no documents responsive to my request.
I understand the penalties for requesting or obtaining access to records under false pretence.
I am the natural person making this request and my signature appears.
Regards,
Almost got a ticket today
Almost got a ticket today for this but the lady said we can park in Pay and display with out the ticket but this is one wardens view the whole thing is a mess!!!!!!
Tell the ACC what you think
Supportive as ever of democracy (NOT !) the ACC have left it till the last minute to advise a dtae and time. But they have.
This Thursday , 13th Dec at Meeting Room, Level 15, Civic Building, 1 Greys Avenue, Auckland on Thursday, 13 December 2007 at 12.30pm.
Anyone who can come along, please do. Free parking in the Aotea car park building.
From Kiwi bike
Debrief:
A very productive meeting.
Presentation well received. We managed to set one half of the committee at the throats of the other half (whilst we sat quietly watching). Which is good, when knaves fall out honest bikers come into their own. And we now have allies.
After much envenomed invective and reference to standing orders etc, the chairman was obliged to accept an amendment moved by Clr Easte, requiring the GM, Parking (our old friend Mr Tomlinson) to prepare a memo for the committe by the March meeting, detailing what he is doing about motorcycle parking. I will be contacting Mr Tomlinson in the next few days to suggest what he should put in that memo (since we were referred to him by the Committee to get something done!). Clr Easte was seconded by Clr Fryer. Clr Bhatnagar got derailed in silly suggestons about motorcycles paying parking fees, which I said was unworkable, and none of the other councillors were interested in that idea.
The committeee broadly accepted the arguments that motorycles are a GoodThing. And that we should be considered in town planning decisions (that's a big win) . And that more motorcycle parking is needed.
And after we withdrew Clr Miller came out to see us and Crashe detailed the exploits of the infamous parking Warden 71, and Clr Miller has offered to sort out the said parking warden.
We also have the committees approval to hit up the community boards to provide parking spaces in suburban areas
So, from all of you, I need details of suitable palces,. you need to tell me where you want to park. Needs to be practical, and not involve demolishing stuff, or forcing out other road users etc. Over to you, ask for it or lose it.
Thanks to all the uni dudes who came along
Good point
Does anyone know about the spot beside Toto's on Hobson Street?
I got fined last week for
I got fined last week for parking on the footpath in Fort st.
I was quite wound up as the 2 nearest motorcycle parks were full! The $40 will definitely result in a disgruntled letter to the council, which I've found out a few facts to support the need for more parking, or a few questions as well.
Does anyone know the rules for parking in pay and display car parks? For free? When I have parked in free, but time limit parks my moped has been moved onto the footpath! *grhh* And another time cars haven't seen my bike and backed straight into it :(
Anyway I found out that 73,000 people commute into the city each day. In the last 2yrs motorcycle and moped registrations have increased 25%, as opposed to cars only 5%, and we represent 3% of registered vehicles. 3% of the commuters into the city is about 2,000-2,500 motorcycles in the city each day, BUT there are 236 allocated parks by the council in the CBD; but the CBD also includes as far out as Newmarket, Parnell etc.
The question left is where the hell do we park if the infrastructure only supports less than 10% of us?!
Auckland City Car Parks
I'm not sure where the 236 allocated parks are, but Auckland City Council run car parks are free for motorbikes and scooters. I can park free in the Downtown park and there is a fair amount of space allocated for motorbikes.
The other two are Victoria St and Aotea Centre I think.
Yep - MisterD is correct,
Yep - MisterD is correct, you are officially allowed to park a 'moped' on the footpath as long as it is not blocking pedestrians
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Sometimes a man has to be drunk to spend time with his fools
Sylvia Park
At Sylvia Park opposite the Westpac bank where it is designated bike parking, but I like to park on the top level right next to the doors under shelter.
Another secret park I will let you all in on is at St Lukes. If you enter the carpark from main entry on St Lukes Rd by the bus stop and turn right there is a loading zone and a drive way/tunnel on the left with a red box above it. If you go down there there is 1 park available that isn't designated a loading zone, just a secret park perfect for shopping at Foodtown or St Lukes during the busy season...
here's a bylaw
20.4.6 A person shall not:
(a) Subject to Clause 25.3.1 of this Bylaw andany consent or direction given in accordance with the provisions of Clause 20.4.6(b) drive or park any vehicle in a public place except on a formed road or in areas set aside for the driving or parking of vehicles. This restriction shall not apply to any person driving at a speed not exceeding 10km/h on a beach by a direct route to deposit or retrieve a boat in the water;
Is a moped (like say a 50cc PX200) not classified as a vehicle?
Train
you can go by train as they have put a new train station round the back, this is a new stop just for Sylvia park shoppers
Go the Warriors !!
Bastard - I've got that song
Bastard - I've got that song stuck in my head now.....
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Sometimes a man has to be drunk to spend time with his fools
we had 5000 bikes and
we had 5000 bikes and scooters in Cologne for that reason .... gridlocked the whole innercity on a saturday morning...
But i think even just a very local campaign with one area of parking could be a pretty good idea - once we have media behind us
"if it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"
why bother with the couple
why bother with the couple of dollars, some of those machines still give a ticket, where are you supposed to put it on a scoot?
Go the Warriors !!
speaking of action...
Can anyone help with the following request to help out in the fight against these silly tickets.
From another site: "We had a BRONZ meeting last night.
Mr Ixion has arranged a meeting with the Council's 'Parking Manager' and we will go and present a case.
For our argument I would like some photos of the completely full bike parking bays around town and some testimonials from folks saying how hard it is to park their bikes.
Then we will go and say (nicely) - look you dicks - this is only going to get worse - do you realise????
I'll take some - but Post a photo of a completely full cycle rack please. With time and date if poss.
Also - We'll need your name on it - so you can email it to mail@davidcohen.co.nz if you don't want to post your 'Bike Parking nightmare' story here.
Big Dave"
Any News
Any news on where this is at?
I got a warning stuck on my scooter when I parked alongside all the bikes between the pillars of the Gen-I building on Wyndam St. The warning said any bikes found parked there after Easter would be clamped.
This is a major bike parking spot in central Auckland so if all the bikes are forced from there the pressure on what little space is left available will be huge.
Another spot
In the Durham St Wilson's carpark (off that side bit that goes below ground level on Albert St) bikes have been parking free in the corners where cars can't go. I parked there today and had a friendly chat to the parking guy about something quite unrelated - he didn't mention any problem with me (and others) parking there.
A work colleague called Wilson carparks. Currently they have no way of charging bikes so as long as we park well out of the way there's no problem. Not sure this is safe in all Wilson carparks but the Durham St one seems OK for now.
Example
The Chancery. That place is impossible to park in.
And has anyone seen the number of bikes parked around Gen-I Tower?
Mopeds too
Of course a moped is a vehicle, where do you guys get the idea that mopeds are allowed on the footpath? See the3 factsheet on mopeds http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/factsheets/43.html which includes: You must ride on the road - you can't ride on the footpath or a cycle path..... cheers, rtch
Gen-i
I work for Gen-i and will be moving to Wyndham Street offices after Easter and had heard that a harder line was going to be taken about the on pavement parking.
The thing I'm a little confused about is that surely the space between the pillars belongs to the building rather than it being a public area. In that case, I'd assume the Council would have no jurisdiction on the bikes at all (this assumes that you park so that no part of your bike protrudes beyond the footprint of the building).
Hiya
I park my scoot in the nooks and crannies in the Tournament carpark on Wellesley Street for free.
There is also a motorcycle parking area (it appears) beside Toto's restaurant on Hobson Street - although after talking to Council I can't get confirmation from them whether this is a bonafide parking area / private parking or otherwise.
Sounds to me like the
Sounds to me like the building owners may have complained. Last I heard was the council had backed down on the ticketing policy
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Yep, the building owners
The building owners posted the notices. Are you saying the footpath is open slather, fairlie?
Sort of...
At the Transport Committee meeting late last year (Auckland City Council), there was a large contingent of bikers who made submissions about the changes to the local bylaw and as I understand it, the Transport folk who introduced the local amendment are to go away and investigate this further.
So, it is not in place at this point as I understand it.